A few 'gotchas' for which any "AG" research must beware: If high voltage is involved, everyone should realize that bare metal can emit air jets which create forces. Even a small corona discharge can eject a stream of "electric wind." Spinning gyroscopes can do the same, an unshrouded flywheel can act as a propellor blade. If we surround our antigravity device with a plastic bag, then any thrust from air jets is eliminated. If doing so also eliminates the weight change, then perhaps the weight change was really caused by air jets from moving parts or from high-voltage all along. If high temperatures are involved, then rising plumes of hot air can create forces. If the AG force from your device is small, and if it rises slowly with time and then decreases slowly when power is removed, then suspect bouyancy forces and rising hot air. To eliminate this problem, operate your device within a vacuum chamber. Or, if your device is meant to create a directional thrust, then rotate your device so that all of the expected force is sideways. Hot air should mostly produce up/down forces, and should therefor be separate from any sideways forces created by genuine AG effects. Electrostatic forces caused by high voltage can masquerade as small weight changes. If any part of your device becomes "frictionally" charged, or if your device employs high voltage as part of its operation, then electrostatic forces will be present. One way to eliminate them: surround your device with a conductive bag (aluminum foil or aluminized mylar), and use a fine wire to connect the conductive bag to earth. This will eliminate any electrostatic forces between the bag and the outside world. Don't trust scales, especially if your device is vibrating. Some scales are nonlinear, and will convert any vibrations into a false reading of directional force. Better to suspend your device from a pendulum, orient it so that it produces sideways thrust, then measure any deflection from vertical. Or, if your device only produces changes in weight, then build a balance beam, suspend your device from one end of the beam, and attach a counterweight to the other end. (And surround it in a conductive plastic bag to eliminate electrostatic forces, AND perform the experiment in a vacuum chamber to eliminate forces caused by rising hot air.) And finally, beware of PSYCHOLOGICAL forces! :) Very often we will let our experiments become entangled in our egos. This is bad, because in order to shield against ego damage, we will stop looking for con- ventional explanations for apparant success. If my antigravity device seems to really work, my first thoughts should NOT be about how superior I am when compared to other researchers, or about the riches and accolades I soon will receive. Those thoughts will steer me away from discovering even the most obvious sources of failure. Instead my first thoughts should be "OK, so how am I fooling myself THIS time?" Obviously all of the above warnings apply to SMALL forces. If your device can lift itself off the table and fly around the room, then there is little doubt that you have a genuine AG effect. Better put it in a plastic bag anyway, just to convince the doubters that you have no electric helicopters hidden somewhere inside it! :) http://www.eskimo.com/~billb/freenrg/antigrav.html ((((((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))))) William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb@eskimo.com www.eskimo.com/~billb EE/programmer/sci-exhibits science projects, tesla, weird science Seattle, WA 206-781-3320 freenrg-L taoshum-L vortex-L webhead-L